And enormous kudos to Dr. Peter Ridd whose battle over his wrongful termination from James Cook University is not over. “Meanwhile, the Australian Government continues to heavily subsidies the fossil fuel industry and is considering a loan of up to $1 billion to facilitate the construction of the Carmichael coal megamine,” writes UNESCO. Something climate scientists have rarely troubled themselves with in their constant search for Malthusian disasters that aren’t happening and whose technical bases are often a status quo that never exists as we progress in sophistication and beliefs that are not evidence based, that a Mann filter is applied to to make the data support events that then don’t happen. That’s a fundamental mistake made by many a scientist in the past & probably still goes on & always will do, on top of which, warming waters merely suggest a warming world, but shed no light whatsoever upon the causes of such events! The Great Barrier Reef, which stretches for 1,400 miles along Australia's coast, suffered an unprecedented coral bleaching event in the summer of 2016, … Great swathes of this natural wonder were dying off due to climate change. You can ignore BS artists when you do what a scientist would have done. If they reject that idea the press could have some fun challenging them. Without any substantiation, you both ‘declare’ what my reality is and you ‘declare’ what facts Aussie Environment Minister Sussan Ley observed, illustrating that you are just making things up to suit your irrational world view while casting aspersions on anyone that doesn’t participate in your fantasies. God help us I find it had to accept that our so called educated betters are truly that stupid. Dr Peter Ridd is one of the scientists who has studied the reef for many years, but he came to fifferent conclusions …so instead of taking him on with facts and evidence. The entire pantheon of climate dooms and disasters are based on ignorance. She should drag the media along too. A quick actual look, an “observation” shows that hypothesis to be wrong. Coral bleaching can occur when the typical summer temperature of local waters increases an exceed maxima by 1°C. The “little, black rock” is playing a huge role in threatening the reef’s existence. And the Red Sea water temperatures are higher (probably considerably higher). So jeering at first-hand observations based on your ill-informed speculations just doesn’t cut it here. The percentage of baby corals being born on the Great Barrier Reef dropped drastically in 2018 and scientists are describing it as the early stage of a "huge natural selection event unfolding". She surely has the guts to call it as it is. AtB. in the last 13,000 years? No amount of infantile bad language will conceal the fact that the whole global warming CO2 scare is built on laughably flawed pseudoscience that is utterly refuted by geology and palaeo climate data. In this November 2016 photo provided by ARC Center of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies, dead staghorn coral killed by bleaching appears drab on the northern Great Barrier Reef, Australia. She is judging by her life story a “”Doing”” sort of a person. Rising sea levels. However, these do not account for the intense coral bleaching events that have occurred in recent years. The number of new corals on the Great Barrier Reef crashed by 89% after the climate change-induced mass bleaching of 2016 and 2017.. Scientists … Clearly, the tourists wanted to see the reefs in all their glory, and stayed away in droves because of what they had all heard. (CNN) — Australia's Great Barrier Reef has lost 50% of its coral populations in the last three decades, with climate change a key driver of reef disturbance, a new study has found. “John Hutton August 17, 2019 at 3:03 am Remember its the “”Cause”” not mere facts that matter. Didn’t Dr. Ridd get some kind of award from his climateering colleagues for criticizing their devious work? The Polar Bears are doing nicely, sea level rise isn’t accelerating, Tuvalu isn’t drowning and now the Bloody GBR is thriving. Maybe she actually did pull her head out of the sand. Well john, Feynman made it clear, ” if the theory does not agree with the observations then the theory is wrong”. for reef science and the outsourcing of reef program delivery to the Great Barrier Reef Foundation by the Turnbull government. plea People who whine about mining and burning coal should immediately divest themselves of everything made from or by fossil fuels. 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Why do you assume that an inch of sea level rise somehow equates to “20 meters of beach”, whatever the eff that means? Let’s return to your false metaphor, paulyc. Really? It would give the lie to the sceptics if images and vidoes were posted anywhere showing the extensive damage. Nutrient runoff. The Great Barrier Coral Reef Is Dying Faster Than Ever Grace Frank completing bleaching surveys along a transect line on an area known as One Tree Reef, in … (Miriam O’Brien aka slandering “Sou” from Hotwhopper, that means you.). Sorry, I still have it on my screen, it has opened earlier immediately, without messages – but now, when I tried again, with the same URL,I’ve got the same paywall meassage that you. a couple? I assume heat, but not that of water ever so slightly warmer but sunbaked heat. And the Great Barrier Reef is not dead, but it is dying. The IPCC does not expect this outcome. In fact, each of the 3000 individual reefs, along the entire 2000km length of the Great Barrier Reef, is a 50-100m high plateau of dead coral rubble that has built up over millennia. I red that Susan Ley actually got into the full diving gear over three days of different locations on the GB R . ... Great Barrier Reef Undergoes Successful ‘Coral IVF’ Treatment. TBF Aussie Govt. Just another opinion…and we all have one. Seems you didn’t get this glaring: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/16/more-government-regulation-wont-save-the-great-barrier-reef-from-scientists-or-politicians-oink/. Always. You are a glaring example of the irrational elitist. Do nutrient dumps on living coral mean they all die, or does this allow the recolonisation of the appropriate symbiots to enhance the reef. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. While raising three children on a family farm, ten years study led to a senior position at the Australian Taxation Office before entering federal politics in 2001. Read our full mailing list consent terms here. And Professor Peter Ridd, he has only been studying for the reef for 35 years. Its long overdue that our so called “”Representatives”” left their comfortable officers in Canberra, and actually went and had a look at the Real World out there. Sad people listen to what you say crazy conspiracists. 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Yet I have not heard a single complaint about bleached coral etc. Evidence is not there. pdf copy of Graham Lloyd’s article Hasn’t the reef been destroyed by the Crown of Thorns starfish plague? Cyclones. I seen’t it! This went on for a couple of years, with each report even more apocalyptic than the previous. Far from being dissolved by CO2 levels 20 times higher than today, they laid down so much mineral in their tissues that it survived till today, more than half a billion years. Of course they may be different families of corals from those that are dying on the GBR but it does prove that corrals can survive “climate change”. [according to AIMS]. But nevermind the fact that the farmer, who knows his orchard, and has spent the last 10 years watching all the trees on his farm, and has tracked and counted a large percentage of them dying off… can tell you the measured truth of the situation that all is not good. (sarc). snikdad, don’t be smart about the COT damage. 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If much of the reef is dying it is unlikely that they would find the one spot that was doing well. Hopefully this can be limited. Smarter than a grade 5er? e.g. Peter Ridd is a scientist who has been studying it for decades, who concluded the reef is doing fine and got fired for saying so. Yes I actually did, and it was magic. The greater the damage the more impressive the % cover and species diversity during the recovery, after 2 to 3 years from damage (depending on water temp). Oh as a footnote, the actions by JCU against Professor Peter Ridd were a disgrace and I was happy to contribute to his defence fund to fight their actions. hence the faster reef recovery of the northern hotter part of the GBR since two devastating cyclones. “Human activities, primarily the emission of greenhouse gases from the combustion of fossil fuels, are driving climate change,” states the council. It is a far more complicated process than just saying the sea came up a few inches over the last 30 years (verified by tide gauges) and ignore the much more significant natural processes that build and erode beaches. One to watch, she faced off the live sheep exporter that was responsible for the carnage on a ship headed over the hot Indian Ocean to the Middle East. You reality is that a minister can go on a little fishing expedition and work out what’s happening? No mention of it on our Left Wing ABC broadcaster or the Fairfax papers. Plenty of people from Miami mention the loss of 20 metres of beach lost to rising sea levels in the last 30 years. Oh yes, believe the guys who occupations, funding and belief systems are dependent upon shrilling Great Barrier Reef doom. Argument from authority, logical failure, ignore all future posts from John Hutton. How can she even know if she has nothing to compare it to. The white sands they speak of are calcium, not silica, or at least a high percentage . Broadbeach in Queensland has been called that for quite a while now. The back-to-back bleaching events in 2016 and 2017 has sent the Reef in a downward decline leaving parts of the coral beds completely unsalvageable. Stupid citizenry- “yeah! Just recently, the Queensland Labor Party approved Adani’s Carmichael megamine – set to be the largest in Australia. Joe demands people destroy economies and force other people to use the ever unreliable alleged renewables? Surprise. “I was expecting to see dead areas with a few patches of life,” Ms Ley said. We have effectively sped up the processes of this coming mass extinction by no telling how many hundreds of thousands of years by worshipping coal, petrol, diesel, plastics, money, and the list goes on. Natural occurrences, such as Cyclone Debbie on 28 March 2017, have also added to the rising damage to the Reef causing breaking and uplifting of the coral. the university just sacked him. – Hilarity Ensues. Our journalists will try to respond by joining the threads when they can to create a true meeting of independent Premium. Falsifiability (per Popper) is really just common-sense and easily understood by a sharp enough lay-person – or even by a government minister. To validate your claim that CO2 is threatening corals with carbonic dissolution, can you please explain for us how it was that multiple phyla of marine calcified organisms, both free living and sessile, evolved, thrived and spread around the world during the Cambrian era when the atmospheric concentration of CO2 was 20 times higher than it is now? Might even have a representative of the Media ask them a question about it. If the observable has shape (e.g. When you have tourism companies and scientists measuring changes over decades but she thinks it’s wrong because she enjoyed her first scuba dive. If you had bothered to learn the facts, you would see that the ocean has ALWAYS absorbed CO2, and that the resulting ocean H2CO3 is a highly buffered system that NEVER made the oceans acidic. In a 2016 article “Obituary: Great Barrier Reef (25 Million BC- 2016)” , writer Rowan Jacobsen pronounced the jewel of the Australian coastline dead after a long illness. The Great Barrier Reef is dying at an unprecedented pace. So the Environment Minister goes to see for herself. Which brings us back to that silly “oh… it’s cold today” ; the alleged basis for claiming Anthropogenic Global Warming” is tracking a global anomaly calculated from a global average. Were the last such events partially caused by low tide at 12 noon at the height of Summer? But, it is not. Steve, Bleaching events will continue to occur and impact sections of the reef but the entire reef stretches 2,300km and will always recover from such events. It may be necessary to examine data. Hot waters in 2016 contributed to the largest die-off of corals ever recorded on Australia’s Great Barrier Reef, researchers announced. … The basis on which Sussan has made her claim is a joke and as bad as some of the claims we see passed off as science for AGW. Australian govt. it’s an attempt to untangle the web they have woven. Covering over 1,429 miles of the Queensland coast, the reef stretches from the north tip of Cape York Peninsula down to the south city of Bundaberg. There should be more of this. There are other commenters saying basically the same thing in this thread. In your case yes, think about what you just said. In three days, even idiots would know how the apple crop over a very large area was faring. Climate Change is destroying the Great Barrier Reef. Not to mention Tupperware bowls from 1980 which still look brand new in 2500! Why didn’t all that “carbonic acid” dissolve all marine calcified organisms? It has taken marine biologists decades of painstaking research, observation and recording to CONCLUDE that global warming is leading to acidification of our oceans which in turn is causing coral bleaching. You can find our Community Guidelines in full here. I actually caught a climate scientist saying on a website that the theory was so obviously correct that any contrary data could be ignored.Comment was later deleted. People who make such ridiculous claims should go and read how hot it really was around the turn of the century, then again in the thirties. Sussan Ley’s career path has been wonderfully varied, working odd jobs on the way to a pilot’s license – with roles as an air traffic controller, stock-mustering pilot and occasional shearer’s cook following. “The cumulative effect of these threats weakens the Reef’s resilience, affecting its ability to recover from serious disturbances predicted to become more frequent in the future,” writes the foundation. Laws that Prof Peter Ridd said could decimate coastal towns up and down the state! Nothing to do with development? Member for Farrer rises for ten years then goes flat for five years, then drops for 5 years) then correlation can be a helpful hint at where cause and effect might lie. Let me give you a metaphor to put this in perspective just how ludicrous this is…, On a viait to a 100-acre apple farm, an ignorant person may look over the fence and see one random tree with a nice-looking apple on it and declare “See look, there’s apples growing here and everything’s fine. Writer Rich Landers of The Spokesman-Review also announced that scientists had pronounced the Great Barrier Reef dead. The US, France and Holland, every single one of them. now they have to let people know that the barrier reef is “open for business”. It’s good to see a responsible minister actually going and have a look first hand. Want an ad-free experience?Subscribe to Independent Premium. Still, the numbers you cite are only 4% of CO₂ emissions. Maybe because he is an expert without any ulterior motives for exaggeration. http://www.exeter.ac.uk/news/featurednews/title_222710_en.html Speaking of Feynman, I recall when Freeman Dyson came out against AGW. UNESCO has criticised the Australian Government for not taking greater steps to preserve the Reef since it was placed on their watch list in 2015. Very few do. Oh look. They use precise transect locations from one year to another and video along it with a set FOV then classify species and percent cover in the lab after field season (summer) is over. … Nothing to worry about at all.”. Please be respectful when making a comment and adhere to our Community Guidelines. Just the observations of an old phart who has lived here more than three score and ten. “With such extraordinary diversity of life and landscape, it provided some of the most thrilling marine adventures on earth to humans who visited. The GBR is vast, manual destruction is an impossibility. Some data show it may be life giving. That was the story a few decades back. Yesterday the experts told me it was dry here with no rain, yet I went outside and got rained on. John, you keep complaining, about the topic, but YOU never provide WHY we should ignore the Environment Minister. The Great Barrier Reef is ephemeral. Then click on the link and it opens. Why didn’t all that “carbonic acid” dissolve all marine calcified organisms? No need to compare when you do not see extensive areas of dead reef. A total reversal. Are they? It was beautiful and vibrant then. Can you explain how sea levels magically rise in one place and not others? According to a briefing released by the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO), the events in 2016 and 2017 increased the percentage of dead coral from 22% to 29% with an anticipated morality rate of 19%. This is classic fake news. What you saw sounds about right, the reef is a very dynamic system where phenomenal changes are commonplace. ?w=1023&ssl=1. Similar to what happens at this site. Stupid scientists with your ‘accuracy’.”. Since the LIA? According to the Great Barrier Reef Foundation, the human influence has caused a 50% decline in the overall coral bed from 1985 to 2012. Funny. Just the same as the thousands of Pacific islands disappearing.”. With the claimed warming over the twentieth century to today is so small most people and wildlife are unable to detect it. It suggests there is growing scepticism of scientists, particularly those in the condition of coral field. And, he is not even close to alone. John (Donkey) Hutton, Do slow and incremental rising of the sea, assist coral reefs to recover as they recolonise dead platforms Marine scientist Peter Ridd has begun a speaking tour in Queensland calling for a new body to check the quality of reef research. Of course they will fail to indicate the locations of the vast tracts of dying reef that should have been visited. https://tinyurl.com/y65txvms. I’m sure in the near future we shall read public apologies from all the reef scientists who declared the fake climate emergency. Common sense. Why would you listen to his assessment?. You are mistaking reefs for diatoms, copepods, and other life that build shells to live within. No scientific credentials needed. Stick with the narrative. “I saw the exact ­opposite to that.”. etc. Sussan Ley should recruit more members of her staff to regularly dive on the GBR. Some material from contributors may contain additional copyrights of their respective company or organization. The twin perils brought by climate change, an increase in the temperature of the ocean and its acidity, if they continue to rise at the present rate the reefs will be gone within decades and that would be a global catastrophe. I’m not sure many of the Reps will want to step out of their meeting rooms. Breathless articles claiming 90% of the GBR was dead, if that were true the common person would be able to tell the reef was dying. Meanwhile, JCU and the University of New South Wales, along with others were sounding the alarm of Catastrophe on the whole of the GBR. The truth is somewhere in between and is not clearly known as the majority of science is being funded by those with an alarmist agenda. Actually, despite pollution and other human activity, there is evidence that corals in the Gulf of Akaba There are untold tons of broken coral and marine skeletons, more than enough to buffer the weak carbonic acid. “The current, ongoing mass bleaching event is the worst in the Great Barrier Reef’s history,” reads the report. Search for the article title in google (not any other search engine). Every time there’s a decent storm, Broadbeach sand is carried north and then built up over time again from the south. She is making up her own. Don’t worry about what they call you.” – Andrew Breitbart | read more, “…the world’s most viewed climate website” of robotic lil devices that cruise around autonomously and inject them with something to kill em in situ. Many/most of them are growing instead. There is a lot in this statement. And wife Canadians 2007 had a Great time on the coral at the height of Summer the petition ask! 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